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Post by CP_Jon_GoSox on May 13, 2023 17:19:46 GMT -5
and Jansen climbs the bump
allows a lead off hit and then....
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Jansen with a second pitch clock violation in the same at-bat against Contreras. He walked him while throwing just three pitches (including one strike). Dave Bush is out to the mound. Bullpen is stirring.
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Post by CP_Jon_GoSox on May 13, 2023 17:22:53 GMT -5
Gorman with a 1 out 2B
fans booing
really would like to know why Cora sent him back out there tonight.....
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Post by CP_Jon_GoSox on May 13, 2023 17:24:55 GMT -5
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Infield is in with the bases loaded and one out, with the Red Sox' (and Jansen's) hold on a 3-2 lead loosening by the moment.
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Post by CP_Jon_GoSox on May 13, 2023 17:26:50 GMT -5
ahahahahahaha
They get a patented 2B
Reyes flips to Kiki and Kiki throws it into the dugout
what a shit show
boos rain down as more Cardinal runs score
4-3 Cardinals
and another time violation by Jansen......hahahahahahahahaha
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Post by CP_Jon_GoSox on May 13, 2023 17:29:04 GMT -5
Alex Speier
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This is the 3rd time ever that Jansen has allowed 3+ runs in back-to-back games. He'd also done it in both 2021 and 2020.
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Post by CP_Jon_GoSox on May 13, 2023 17:36:12 GMT -5
Cards win 4-3
Gas Can Gang strikes again
On ESPN tomorrow night...
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Post by CP_Jon_GoSox on May 13, 2023 21:44:17 GMT -5
Red Sox waste Chris Sale’s dominant start, Kenley Jansen blows another save
Updated: May. 13, 2023, 8:40 p.m.|Published: May. 13, 2023, 6:34 p.m.
By Christopher Smith | csmith@masslive.com
BOSTON — For a second straight day, Kenley Jansen blew a save against the Cardinals.
The Red Sox lost 4-3 as they wasted a dominant performance by Chris Sale who allowed only one run in 8 innings.
Jansen, who recorded his 400th career save in Atlanta on Wednesday, couldn’t hold a 3-1 lead in the ninth. He walked the first two Cardinals batters he faced and had three pitch clock violations.
Nolan Gorman crushed a one-out RBI double to cut St. Louis’ deficit to 3-2.
Jansen’s intentional walk to Brendan Donovan loaded the bases. The Red Sox tried to turn a double play on Alec Burleson’s slow (77.6 mph) grounder to second base. Shortstop Kiké Hernández’s errant throw to first base allowed a second runner to score from second and St. Louis went ahead 4-3.
Two of the three runs were earned.
Red Sox ace Chris Sale (yes, he’s their ace again) has a 2.21 ERA (f20 ⅓ innings, 5 runs over his past three starts).
He pitched 8 innings, allowing just one run, three hits and one walk while striking out nine. It marked the longest outing by a Red Sox starter so far this season.
He threw 55 four-seam fastballs, averaging 94.9 mph and topping out at 97.2 mph, per Baseball Savant. He added 45 sliders, five changeups and five sinkers (94.3 mph average).
He recorded 11 whiffs with the slider and five with his four-seamer.
He reached 97.2 mph on his 110th and final pitch.
Sale didn’t give up a run until the seventh inning when Nolan Arenado crushed a 414-foot homer that left his bat with a 104.5 mph exit velocity.
The Red Sox took a 1-0 lead in the first inning when Justin Turner doubled off Cardinals left-handed starter Steven Matz with one out and Rafael Devers singled him home with two outs.
Boston went ahead 3-0 in the third inning. Pablo Reyes, who the Red Sox acquired in a trade with the A’s on Friday, doubled with one out. Alex Verdugo got hit by a pitch. A wild pitch then advanced both runners into scoring position.
Rob Refsnyder plated both Reyes and Verdugo on a double that left fielder Juan Yepez should have probably caught against the Green Monster.
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Post by CP_Jon_GoSox on May 13, 2023 21:46:11 GMT -5
Red Sox’ Kenley Jansen, Alex Cora explain reason for pitch clock violations
Updated: May. 13, 2023, 8:42 p.m.|Published: May. 13, 2023, 8:31 p.m.
By Christopher Smith | csmith@masslive.com
BOSTON — Red Sox closer Kenley Jansen was charged with three pitch clock violations during his blown save in the ninth inning Saturday. Jansen allowed three runs (two earned) and the Red Sox lost 4-3 to the Cardinals at Fenway Park.
Two automatic balls were called during Willson Contreras’ at-bat, leading to back-to-back walks to start the inning. Jansen was charged with pitch clock violations to even the count 1-1 against Contreras, then to automatically walk him on a 3-1 pitch.
So what happened?
The pitch clock didn’t expire. Jansen instead began his delivery before Contreras was alert and in the box ready to hit.
A hitter must be alert and ready in the box to hit with 8 seconds remaining on the clock or he’s charged with an automatic strike. But the pitcher also can’t throw the baseball before 8 seconds if the hitter isn’t ready or he’ll be charged with an automatic ball.
Contreras had one foot out of the batter’s box when Jansen started to the plate. Jansen thought Contreras was ready to hit because Contreras looked at him and had his bat in position to hit.
“I kind of got confused a little bit because Contreras was looking at me,” Jansen said. “His hands were up and he was looking at me. But his (foot) was out. So I’m more focusing on seeing, ‘Hey, he’s looking at me. I’m gonna come home.’”
Jansen said he’s clear on the rule now.
“I mean, I’ve gotta pay attention that both feet are in the box,” Jansen said. “You see the bat up, you see the head looking at you. But then you’ve gotta pay attention to the feet — if the feet is out of the box. The second time, he looked at me and then when I came to home, he dropped his head and his foot was out. It’s clearly telling me that, yeah, they messed with me and it pays off for them. I didn’t pay attention to (the foot). That’s my fault and my responsibility to just look at that.”
Conteras presumably was looking at the clock and waiting until it got to 8 seconds to put his second foot in the box.
Jansen was asked if he thinks more hitters will try to do it and he replied, “I don’t care.” He said he needs to do a better job.
“Now I’m going to pay attention to that (feet in the box) and gotta do better,” he said.
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Jansen, who recorded his 400th career save in Atlanta on Wednesday, blew his second save in as many days. He couldn’t hold a 3-1 lead in the ninth Saturday. He walked the first two Cardinals batters, Paul Goldschmidt and Contreras.
Nolan Gorman crushed a one-out RBI double to cut St. Louis’ deficit to 3-2.
Jansen’s intentional walk to Brendan Donovan loaded the bases. The Red Sox tried to turn a double play on Alec Burleson’s slow (77.6 mph) grounder to second base. Shortstop Kiké Hernández’s errant throw to first base allowed a second runner to score from second base and St. Louis went ahead 4-3.
“We all know the rules,” manager Alex Cora said. “The hitter needs to be in the box and alert at the latest at 8 (seconds). The pitcher needs to give the hitter time to be in the box and alert. ... The rule is the rule.”
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Post by CP_Jon_GoSox on May 13, 2023 21:47:33 GMT -5
Should Red Sox’s Kiké Hernández have thrown ball? He discusses errant throw
Updated: May. 13, 2023, 9:44 p.m.|Published: May. 13, 2023, 9:38 p.m.
By Christopher Smith | csmith@masslive.com
BOSTON — Red Sox manager Alex Cora had closer Kenley Jansen intentionally walk Cardinals’ Brendan Donovan to load the bases with one out in the ninth inning and Boston leading 3-2 on Saturday.
Cora played the infield back, hoping to turn a game-ending double play.
“Worst-case scenario, they score one and we keep the inning alive (tied) and we get the next guy out and we’ve got a chance to win the game,” Cora said.
Jansen induced a ground ball to second base off Alec Burleson’s bat. But the worst-case scenario ended up being worse than the Cardinals only tying the game. Shortstop Kiké Hernández tried to turn a 4-6-3 double play and his errant throw past first baseman Triston Casas allowed the runner at second base to score the go-ahead run.
The Cardinals won 4-3 over the Red Sox at Fenway Park. The ninth inning was a disaster, including three pitch clock violations from Jansen.
“It was a slow roller, we didn’t turn a double play and they took advantage of it,” Cora said.
Burleson’s ground ball left his bat at 77.6 mph.
“Just tried to force a play that was going to be bang-bang and really didn’t have much behind the throw,” Hernández said.
It looked unlikely that Hernández would be able to throw out Burleson considering how long the grounder took to get to second baseman Pablo Reyes.
So should Hernández have held onto the baseball to make sure just one run scored instead of rushing a throw and risking two runs score?
“You always try,” Cora said. “You don’t want to throw it away.”
Hernández added, “Maybe I make a good throw, maybe he’s out, maybe he’s not. Maybe I hold it and we never know if he’s safe or not. Even though I rushed it and it was going to be close, I need to make a better throw there.
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“You don’t have to throw the ball but in that situation I’m never going to throw the ball thinking I’m going to throw it away unless I don’t have a good grip,” he added. “And in that spot, I felt like I had a good grip. I just threw it down. Yeah, it’s not like I’m throwing the ball thinking I’m going to throw it away.”
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Post by CP_Jon_GoSox on May 13, 2023 21:48:48 GMT -5
Tom Caron (blue checkmark redacted)
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Back to back 9th inn blown saves for Jansen, who has been one of the game’s best closers this season. At the quarter pole the Sox are last in the AL East and are 0.5 games out of the playoffs. Are they a last-place team or a playoff contender? We still don’t know. 122 to find out
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Post by CP_Jon_GoSox on May 14, 2023 5:34:44 GMT -5
What happened to Kenley Jansen? A look at the rules violations that triggered the Red Sox closer’s blown save
By Alex Speier Globe Staff,Updated May 13, 2023, 9:46 p.m.
When Major League Baseball announced plans to introduce a pitch clock for the 2023 season, curiosity about Kenley Jansen’s ability to adapt immediately spread across the baseball world. After all, the star closer — signed to a two-year, $32 million deal by the Red Sox this winter — was notorious as one of the most deliberate workers in the game. Could he remain effective working at a faster pace?
On Saturday, Jansen finally ran afoul of baseball’s pace-of-play rules in incredibly costly fashion. Yet the form his violations assumed came in entirely unanticipated form.
Jansen, who entered for the ninth inning with the Sox holding a 3-1 lead, was flagged three times for working too quickly against Cardinals DH Willson Contreras. The Red Sox closer received one warning, then was charged with two quick-pitch violations resulting in automatic balls — the last resulting in Contreras being awarded with a walk, a critical development that contributed to a three-run Cardinals rally for a 4-3 win at Fenway.
“It sucks. It sucks,” lamented Jansen, who allowed three runs and blew a ninth-inning lead for the second time in as many days. “I learned the experience today of the rule and it cost me a game. It definitely sucks. I’m taking all the responsibility about that.”
MLB’s pace-of-play rules not only dictate the amount of time a pitcher can take to begin his delivery — 15 seconds with the bases empty, 20 with runners on — but also require the batter to be in the box and looking up with eight seconds on the clock. But as the new rules were rolled out in spring training, concern mounted that pitchers would time their deliveries to quick-pitch batters before they were ready.
And so, in early March, the league issued a memo clarifying that a quick-pitch violation would be called if the pitcher started his delivery before the batter was reasonably set and alert to the pitcher. That rule played a central role in the ninth.
Jansen, after issuing a four-pitch walk to Paul Goldschmidt to open the inning, believed that meant the batter to be looking at him with his bat in a ready position — conditions he felt Contreras was fulfilling — but Jansen wasn’t looking to see if the hitter’s feet were in the batter’s box.
Jansen received a warning from home plate umpire Derek Thomas for starting his delivery before Contreras had his feet in the box. Then, with the count 0-1, Jansen started his delivery with more than eight seconds left on the clock, as soon as he saw Contreras looking up and his bat ready — but didn’t notice Contreras had one foot out of the box. An automatic ball was assessed.
Rattled, Jansen missed the zone on his next two pitches. As he started his 3-1 pitch, Jansen again saw Contreras looking at him with his bat ready, again started his delivery, and again was charged with an automatic ball because Contreras didn’t have both feet in the box.
Contreras — described by a National League evaluator as someone who frequently tries to goad opponents into rules violations — had successfully baited Jansen.
“He’s been struggling since last night throwing strikes,” Contreras said. “So I was just getting him stressed a little bit. Nothing disrespectful.
“That’s what the pitch clock allows you to do. I know that some closers like to get their rhythm, but my job as a batter is to not let him get into that rhythm. So I was letting the clock come all the way down to eight [before stepping in the box].
“It’s not my fault. It’s something I use for me in my favor, in our favor for the team. It worked out today.”
The pitcher was jarred.
“It threw me off and it just messed up my whole game,” said Jansen. “The explanation is, he’s got to have his feet in the box I guess, but you can clearly see that we cannot mess with the hitters. They’re looking at us but if one foot is out, I’m ready to come at you. That’s what I [saw]. Hitters can mess with us. That’s OK.
“He looked at me, and then when I came home, he dropped his head and he was [out of the box]. It’s really telling me that, yeah, they mess with me and it pays off. That’s my fault and my responsibility to look at that.”
With the walk to put runners on first and second, pitching coach Dave Bush visited the mound to try to calm Jansen. Thomas and crew chief Vic Carapazza eventually joined the conference. But while Jansen seemed to settle while eliciting a popup from Nolan Arenado, pinch hitter Nolan Gorman slammed an RBI double to right-center to make it 3-2.
Jansen intentionally walked pinch hitter Brendan Donovan to load the bases and create a force at any base, with the infield coming in. Pinch hitter Alec Burleson grounded slowly to second baseman Pablo Reyes.
The Sox converted an out at second, but Kiké Hernández’s relay to first was late and wild. Two runs scored, propelling St. Louis to victory and leaving Jansen to lament a second straight meltdown — this one based in part on his inability to comply with the rules once he violated them, as well as his inability to get the game under control after issuing a walk in an at-bat in which he threw three official pitches (one strike, two balls).
“I can look bad, but at the end of the day, you’ve got to continue to come out here. That’s what you get paid for,” said Jansen. “It’s grind time now.”
And for Jansen, “grind time” must come with a newfound attention to detail regarding the whereabouts of his opponents’ feet, particularly those of Contreras.
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Post by CP_Jon_GoSox on May 14, 2023 5:38:57 GMT -5
RED SOX NOTEBOOK
A day after being acquired, Pablo Reyes right in the middle of things for the Red Sox
By Julian McWilliams Globe Staff,Updated May 13, 2023, 7:57 p.m.
The Red Sox’ depth up the middle has been tested this season. As of Saturday, the Sox had four middle infielders on the injured list, forcing the club to dig deep into the bin and pull out Pablo Reyes.
The Sox acquired Reyes from the Athletics on Friday for cash. By Saturday, he was in the lineup as the second baseman at Fenway Park for the middle game of a three-game set against the Cardinals and fellow infielder Bobby Dalbec was optioned to Triple A Worcester.
“He has experience playing up the middle,” said manager Alex Cora of Reyes before the Red Sox lost, 4-3. “That’s something we took into consideration, especially late in games. We know Bobby can make plays and all that but he doesn’t have experience up the middle. Towards the end of the game, it’s not that I was hesitant but I feel more comfortable with [Reyes], who plays the position.”
Having Dalbec, a corner infielder, play up the middle was always a tall — and unfair — ask.
However, to understand just how depleted the Red Sox are up the middle, just look at Reyes’ recent timeline. He signed a minor league deal with the A’s in the offseason and was stuffed in Triple A by a glorified minor league team that owns the worst record in baseball. Reyes wasn’t good enough to be on that team.
But Cora said the Sox like Reyes’s at-bats. Perhaps there is something to that.
Reyes, a righthanded hitter, struck a wall-ball double off Cardinals lefthander Steven Matz in his first at-bat, in the third inning, eventually scoring on a Rob Refsnyder double. He tagged a single off Matz in the fifth, too.
The Sox were intrigued by Reyes’ versatility, with Cora adding Reyes can also play the outfield. Reyes will play some second against lefties, giving the Red Sox a chance to play the matchups a bit more by platooning him and lefty-hitting Enmanuel Valdez.
“It’s another opportunity,” said Reyes, who has played in parts of five seasons in the majors. “I am here to help the team and do the best I can do.”
The middle infield has survived the injury blows. The Sox have received offensive production from Valdez. Kiké Hernández has looked better at shortstop as of late, although he did commit a costly throwing error that led the Cardinals’ winning run on Saturday. Expecting production from those two over the course of a full season is a huge task.
At some point, the Red Sox will need their intended group of middle infielders back on the field, led by Trevor Story (elbow). The Sox are indeed seeing progress from Story, who is out to 75 feet throwing as he continues his rehab at the team’s spring training complex in Fort Myers. Christian Arroyo (hamstring) took swings in a simulated game thrown by Kutter Crawford at Fenway Park on Saturday. Yu Chang (hamate bone) took swings off a tee Saturday.
What remains unclear is the status of Adalberto Mondesi, who underwent ACL surgery over a year ago but still isn’t ready for a rehab assignment and continues to just do baseball activities. Cora said Mondesi’s lack of progress has some to do with pain tolerance.
“He’s so explosive,” Cora said. “But not at the level he’s used to. Maybe that’s what kind of pulls him back.”
In order to make the true playoff push they envision, the Sox will need not just depth up the middle but their intended depth.
Injury updates
Garrett Whitlock (ulnar neuritis) will pitch in rehab games Tuesday and Sunday. Crawford (hamstring) will also pitch Tuesday. If all goes well, Crawford will join the team on their West Coast trip beginning in San Diego against the Padres . . . Reliever Joely Rodriguez (oblique) tossed 1⅓ innings and allowed one hit, a solo homer, in a rehab appearance for Double A Portland on Saturday. The Sox hope to activate the lefthander for the series with the Mariners that opens Monday at Fenway . . . Arroyo hit the injured list on May 7 and has been progressing well, but will need more than the 10-day minimum before returning, Cora said.
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Post by CP_Jon_GoSox on May 14, 2023 5:46:07 GMT -5
Cardinals @ Red Sox
Sunday, 14th May 2023
7pm @ Fenway
Mikolas 1-1/ 5.40
Kluber 2-4/ 6.29
Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 7:08pm EDT
Written by Mark Ruelle
Sunday Night Baseball will be in Boston this week as four-time World Series foes the St. Louis Cardinals and Boston Red Sox wrap up their three-game series at Fenway Park. The Cardinals are trying to bounce back from a slow start while the Sox are hoping to stay in the hunt in a crowded AL East Division. The pitching matchup on Sunday night will be Cardinals' righty Miles Mikolas (1-1, 5.40) taking on Boston right-hander Corey Kluber (2-4, 6.29). The first pitch is scheduled for 7:05 PM EST.
Playoffs in the Cards?
If the St. Louis Cardinals hope to return to the playoffs in 2023, the team will need to start stringing together victories on a consistent basis. Heading into this series at Fenway Park, the Cardinals had won three of four after losing eight straight games to fall into last place in the NL Central Division. On Friday night, the Cardinals were able to get to Boston closer Hanley Jansen and pulled off a come-from-behind 8-6 win to make it four wins in five games. On Saturday afternoon the Cards once again came back in the 9th inning, this time from a 3-1 deficit to win 4-3. Nolan Gorman doubled home the tying runs and scored the game-winner on a throwing error
The Cardinals will hand the ball to righty Miles Mikolas in the series finale on Sunday night. Mikolas is 1-1 on the season with an ERA of 5.40 in eight starts. He's had just one quality start while allowing 57 hits in just 41.2 innings pitched. He has given up seven home runs in his eight starts and has a K/9 rate of 8.9. On the road, Mikolas is 1-0 in four starts with a 4.29 ERA. Mikolas hard-hit percentage has gone from 36% last year to 44% this season, which could explain his nearly two-runs-per-game jump in ERA thus far.
Sox Offense Humming
The Boston Red Sox are quietly looking like a team that may be in this race for the long haul with a strong lineup from top to bottom and more depth than most experts anticipated. The Red Sox returned home this weekend after a 3-2 road trip through Philadelphia and Atlanta. On Friday night, closer Hanley Jansen blew a save opportunity one day after collecting his 400th career save and the Sox fell 8-6. On Saturday, Jansen blew his second straight save as he allowed the Cardinals to score three runs in the 9th inning with the last run scored on a Kike Hernandez throwing error.
Veteran righty Corey Kluber will take the hill for the Sox on Sunday night. Kluber is 2-4 in his debut season with Boston in seven starts. He has just one quality start thus far with an ERA of 6.29 while allowing nine home runs already. At home, Kluber is 0-3 in four starts with an ERA of 7.71. Kluber's hard-hit percentage sits at 45.9%, well above his career average of 33.1. His strikeout percentage is also at a career-low at 18.2. After walking just 3.4 of batters last year, that number has more than doubled to 7.8 in 2023.
Key Injuries: IFs Christian Arroyo and Yu Chang are both out.
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It's expected to be 63° F with a 0% chance of precipitation and 8 MPH wind blowing left to right in Boston at 7:10 PM EST.
Hourly Forecasts: Weather.com
Key Injuries: OF Tyler O'Neill is out.
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Post by CP_Jon_GoSox on May 14, 2023 13:31:25 GMT -5
Game 41: Cardinals at Red Sox lineups and notesBy Amin Touri Globe Staff,Updated May 14, 2023, 55 minutes ago After a pair of surprising — and at times strange — late defeats to the Cardinals, the Red Sox will try to avoid a sweep on Sunday night in prime time. Much like the rest of the Sox rotation, Corey Kluber has started to find a rhythm over recent weeks, with a 3.86 ERA over his last three outings; he’ll try and follow his fellow aging arms with another strong start, though he’ll hope for more bullpen help than Chris Sale and James Paxton received this weekend. Miles Mikolas will face the Red Sox for the first time on Sunday when he takes the ball for the Cardinals. Lineups CARDINALS (15-25): 1. Lars Nootbaar (L) RF 2. Paul Goldschmidt (R) 1B 3. Nolan Gorman (L) 2B 4. Nolan Arenado (R) 3B 5. Willson Contreras (R) DH 6. Brendan Donovan (L) LF 7. Paul DeJong (R) SS 8. Dylan Carlson (S) CF 9. Andrew Knizner (R) C Pitching: RHP Miles Mikolas (1-1, 5.40 ERA) RED SOX (22-18): 1. Alex Verdugo (L) RF 2. Masataka Yoshida (L) LF 3. Justin Turner (R) DH 4. Rafael Devers (L) 3B 5. Jarren Duran (L) CF 6. Triston Casas (L) 1B 7. Enmanuel Valdez (L) 2B 8. Reese McGuire (L) C 9. Pablo Reyes (R) SS Pitching: RHP Corey Kluber (2-4, 6.29 ERA) Time: 7:10 p.m. TV, radio: ESPN, WEEI-FM 93.7 Cardinals vs. Kluber: Nolan Arenado 0-3, Brendan Donovan 0-2, Tommy Edman 0-2, Paul Goldschmidt 2-9, Nolan Gorman 1-3, Andrew Knizner 0-2, Lars Nootbaar 0-2, Juan Yepez 1-2 Red Sox vs. Mikolas: Kiké Hernández 3-5, Raimel Tapia 1-3, Justin Turner 2-4, Alex Verdugo 0-3 Stat of the day: Kenley Jansen blew consecutive saves for the first time since 2021, and for only the fourth time in his career, in the first two games of the series. Notes: Kluber has made three career appearances (all starts) against St. Louis. He’s 2-1 with a 5.52 ERA and has 25 strikeouts in 14 ⅔ innings ... Bobby Dalbec was optioned to Triple A Worcester before Saturday’s game to make room for infielder Pablo Reyes ... The Red Sox are 1-4 in their last five after an eight-game winning streak ... Willson Contreras won’t catch Mikolas on Sunday, but St. Louis manager Oliver Marmol said Contreras will be behind the plate when the Cardinals play the Brewers at home Monday. Contreras, who joined the Cardinals as a free agent following the 2022 season, was moved to designated hitter after he caught 23 games for St. Louis this year ... Nolan Arenado has homered in each of the first two games in the series for the Cardinals, who have won five of their last six games. Arenado has five home runs in his last seven games in Boston.
Song of the Day: Pink Floyd- Motherwww.youtube.com/watch?v=xe3NUKCnZp4
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Post by CP_Jon_GoSox on May 14, 2023 19:19:45 GMT -5
Kluber getting Clobbered
boos rain down
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