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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2020 12:45:00 GMT -5
Hate to see Moreland go but the goal now is improve the farm.
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Post by CP_Jon_GoSox on Aug 30, 2020 12:51:56 GMT -5
Hate to see Moreland go but the goal now is improve the farm.
but they got that for Workman
Padres gonna love Mitch, a serious dude who has a championship ring, clubhouse leader.....
Now Bloom and the gang might as well keep going....Vaz, Pillar, JBJ, Barnes....anyone not named Xander , Devers and Verduga. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2020 13:02:35 GMT -5
Hate to see Moreland go but the goal now is improve the farm.
but they got that for Workman
Padres gonna love Mitch, a serious dude who has a championship ring, clubhouse leader.....
Now Bloom and the gang might as well keep going....Vaz, Pillar, JBJ, Barnes....anyone not named Xander , Devers and Verduga. |
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Post by CP_Jon_GoSox on Aug 30, 2020 13:06:39 GMT -5
I am happy with the kids coming back
after the first few trades
did not expect top pitching prospects
and still dont but like Bloom said
"We need waves of prospects"
Getting these fringe prospects now means
they can go after pitching in the draft and international draft
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Post by CP_Jon_GoSox on Aug 30, 2020 13:55:12 GMT -5
Joel Sherman
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nypost.com/2020/08/30/mets-focused-on-catching-upgrade-before-mlb-trade-deadline/
#Mets are looking to upgrade catching before Monday’s trade deadline.
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Given Christian Vazquez's team-friendly deal — $6.25M in 2021, $7M team option in 2022 — would think the Sox would require significant value back for him.
Wonder if Brodie (or Brody) Van Wagenen can make deals easily with ownership in transition?
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Post by CP_Jon_GoSox on Aug 30, 2020 14:02:24 GMT -5
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Mitch Moreland with #RedSox: 1,449 PAs, .251/.332/.471 (.803 OPS), .898 OPS in '18 title run
Mike Napoli with #RedSox: 1,456 PAs, .242/.350/.436 (.785 OPS), .742 OPS in '13 title run
Folk heroes, both.
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Post by CP_Jon_GoSox on Aug 30, 2020 14:18:46 GMT -5
Alex Speier
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Zack Godley is the first Red Sox starting pitcher this year other than Eovaldi or Perez to record an out in the 5th inning.
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Post by CP_Jon_GoSox on Aug 30, 2020 14:45:14 GMT -5
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Besides the homer to Casas, Seabold had absolutely no trouble in his first sim game. Dominant command and stuff as expected. 3 IP, 6 K.
Groome was very good as well. Now we wait for the Mata news.
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Post by CP_Jon_GoSox on Aug 30, 2020 15:01:55 GMT -5
Brock bowing and doffing his hat
to the "crowd" was funny as hell.
Love Brock and wish him well.
Brock Holt tribute video: Boston Red Sox fan favorite tips cap toward empty stands, bows in Fenway Park return with Nationals
Updated 3:32 PM; Today 3:18 PM
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Boston Red Sox second baseman Brock Holt smiles after the team's 7-4 win over the Colorado Rockies in a baseball game Wednesday, Aug. 28, 2019, in Denver. (AP Photo/David Zalubowski)AP
By Chris Cotillo | ccotillo@MassLive.com
Even with no fans in the crowd at Fenway Park, former Red Sox fan favorite Brock Holt found a way to acknowledge those who had cheered him on for seven years in Boston.
With Holt returning to Fenway as a new member of the Nationals, the Red Sox played a tribute video honoring his contributions to the club between innings of Sunday’s game. At the end of the video, Holt came out onto the field, tipping his cap and bowing toward the empty stands.
Many of Holt’s former teammates applauded him from the field. Holt, who struck out as a pinch-hitter against Matt Barnes in the ninth inning of Boston’s 5-3 win Saturday night, signed with the Nationals on Saturday after being released by the Brewers earlier in the week.
Appearing on Zoom before the game, Holt said he was surprised that the Red Sox didn’t have much interest in signing him as a free agent over the winter. Boston opted to go with younger infield options like Jose Peraza, Jonathan Arauz and Michael Chavis and Holt signed with Milwaukee in February.
“I didn’t really hear from the Red Sox this year which was a little strange to me. It was one of those things, first time through free agency, didn’t really know what to expect,” he said. “Figured I would get a phone call or something. They called a couple times just checking in but it was never even really close to offering. I think early on in the process I knew it was probably the end. That’s just something that we started — we’re going to have to move on, probably going to be with a different team. That’s just the way things worked out. Obviously, the Brewers was a good situation and just didn’t work out there. Now I’m here so we’ll do the best we can and just see what happens.”
Holt, his pregnant wife Lakyn and social media sensation son Griff, still live in the area. The 32-year-old said he is still close with many of his former teammates from the Red Sox even though many players have gone on to play for different teams.
“That’s part of the business of baseball,” he said. “That’s the sucky part of it but that happens. Sometimes, it’s time to move on. It’s tough to see because we were so close and such a fun group of guys to be a part of. That’s something we’ll have forever. I’m super close still with every single one of those guys and wish them nothing but the best. That’s baseball. Things happen and teams rebuild. That’s what the Red Sox are doing right now.”
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Post by CP_Jon_GoSox on Aug 30, 2020 15:37:59 GMT -5
Jeff Passan
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The San Diego Padres have emerged as strong favorites to trade for catcher Jason Castro, sources tell ESPN. It would mark the Padres' third deal in the last 24 hours, after acquiring reliever Trevor Rosenthal and first baseman Mitch Moreland. They're loading up for a playoff run.
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The Padres inquired about Christian Vazquez in early iterations of discussions with the Red Sox before the Moreland deal, but deemed the price for him too high and seemingly refocused on shorter-term options.
The Sox are certainly listening on Vazquez, but it makes sense for them to ask for a lot in return for an above-average catcher under team control on an affordable deal through 2022. There's no need to move him unless they are essentially blown away.
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Post by CP_Jon_GoSox on Aug 30, 2020 16:33:13 GMT -5
Jen McCaffrey
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Regarding Mata leaving today's alternate site game today, sources say the initial evaluation was just a hamstring cramp, but they'll check in on him again tomorrow
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Post by CP_Jon_GoSox on Aug 30, 2020 16:57:36 GMT -5
Jen McCaffrey
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Regarding Mata leaving today's alternate site game today, sources say the initial evaluation was just a hamstring cramp, but they'll check in on him again tomorrow
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Post by CP_Jon_GoSox on Aug 30, 2020 17:12:22 GMT -5
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Red Sox are doing background work on Mets minor league players, per @ken_Rosenthal
. He and Sherman have linked them to Vazquez this afternoon.
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Post by CP_Jon_GoSox on Aug 30, 2020 17:26:45 GMT -5
Lou Merloni
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You can’t rebuild a team thru FA. You need depth in the Minors that allows you to make a trade for controllable Starters. So I like adding players that you may package with others to get what you want. Moreland wasn’t going to help you win your next Championship.
I do. I think Vazquez and Barnes could be moved before 4pm
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Post by CP_Jon_GoSox on Aug 30, 2020 17:38:22 GMT -5
Red Sox roster turnover is tough side of business of baseball By Peter Abraham Globe Staff,Updated August 30, 2020, 23 minutes ago The Red Sox used 44 players in 2018 on their way to a 108-win season followed by a resounding World Series championship. Only 14 remain in the organization from that team, which includes the essentially retired Dustin Pedroia. Just eight were in uniform for Sunday’s 9-5 victory against the Nationals. Mitch Moreland, one of the heroes of the ’18 Series, was the latest out the door. He was traded to the Padres on Sunday for two legitimate prospects. It was absolutely the right move. Moreland turns 35 next week and the Sox sold high on him while making room for Bobby Dalbec to play first base. It was a good idea to trade Heath Hembree and Brandon Workman to the Phillies, too. Consensus around the game is that the Sox received better than expected value in both deals. The sell-off could well continue before the trade deadline hits at 4 p.m. Monday. The Sox would certainly do Jackie Bradley Jr. a favor by trading him to a contender. But where does it stop, this creeping anonymity? Outside of a few core players, the Red Sox are loaded with fringe big leaguers not even the most avid fan could pick out of the lineup. Chief baseball officer Chaim Bloom is adept at making moves that incrementally improve the team’s overall talent base while reducing the payroll. It was why ownership hired Bloom, to buy low and sell high enough times until you create sustainable success. It works. The Rays won 186 games from 2018-19 and are in first place this season. Their farm system is loaded with high-end talent. But the Rays also haven’t won a Division Series since 2008 and are exploring the idea of eventually playing half their games in Montreal to make up for the lack of interest in Florida. It’s a style that can seem antiseptic at times. Brock Holt, a valuable player who was immensely popular with the fan base, said Sunday he “didn’t really hear from the Red Sox at all” after becoming a free agent last fall. “A little strange to me,” Holt said. “It’s one of those things, first time through free agency, didn’t really know what to expect. Figured I’d get a phone call or something. They called a couple of times just checking in. But it was never really close to offering .”
Holt ended up with Milwaukee and was 3 for 31 before being released, then signing Saturday with the Nationals, so the Sox had it right.
Holt video chatted with Moreland on Saturday to congratulate him on reaching 10 years of major league service time.
“I asked him, ‘You going to get traded?’ He said, ‘No.’ But obviously he got traded,” Holt said. “I’m proud of him. He’s one of my favorite teammates of all time. He’s a winner, good to have around. Padres are lucky to have him.”
Moreland joined the Sox on a one-year, $5.5 million deal in 2017. He left with an .803 OPS over four seasons.
Moreland was an All-Star in 2018 and had one of the biggest swings in Red Sox postseason history, a three-run homer in Game 4 of the World Series at Dodger Stadium.
With the Sox down, 4-0, Moreland pinch hit with two outs in the seventh inning and crushed a Ryan Madson changeup to right field that for a second seemed like it might end up in the parking lot. The Sox went on to a 9-6 victory and a 3-1 series lead. They wrapped it up the next night.
Like Holt, he was a good teammate whose effort you never had any reason to question.
Holt has watched the dismantling of the ’18 team with a mixed sense of melancholy and reality.
“That’s part of the business of baseball,” he said. “It’s the [lousy] part of it but it happens. It’s time to move on. It’s tough to see because we were so close, such a fun group of guys to be a part of. But that’s baseball.”
But, unlike Tampa Bay, baseball is part of the day-to-day fabric in Boston and you wonder how fans will adapt to the constant turnover.
If the team is successful, maybe it won’t matter. They’ll learn to root for the jersey and not who’s in them.
I asked Bloom on Sunday to what degree he takes intangibles into account when making these deals.
“We think about it. How can you not think about it?” he said. “We know what someone like Mitch Moreland means to our fans and the group in here and to us. That makes all of it harder.
“We’re aware of that; we think about it; we factor it in. We also know that our job is to make sure that we can set ourselves up to win a lot in the future. If there’s something we think that helps us do that, then even though they’re difficult emotions that come with it, we need to be willing to do that and we need to be willing to make those hard decisions.” |
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